One body was face down in the south side of the tank. Look up alcohol levels in postmortem state. The trauma dogs noted hot spots in the basement. stop, stop. . Chris Watts' plan was to make his family disappear. What are the odds???? I believe the frenulum injury could be explained from the process of stuffing her head through the thief hatch post mortem it was a tight squeeze with the larger child. https://www.iol.co.za/capeargus/news/rohde-court-told-of-faeces-in-spier-hotel-room-15629834. Dont mislead people into believing there should be feces in the location of a murder. A persons muscles relax upon death, including the sphincter. They were out of town and it was still spotless. Little Celeste, thankfully, seemed to have no idea what was happening to her. The same instinct that we as parents have to call somebody for help when our children our hurt. Maintaining compression in a Stranglehold after unconsciousness is rendered may result in death. Like you, I believe the children were sedated, and possibly Shanann as well. They say: Chris told his father, She hurt them. Under anaerobic conditions (absence of free oxygen) acids such as lactic acid, acetic acid and butyric acid are produced during decomposition, as well as a number of alcohols which include butyl alcohol, ethyl alcohol and acetone. She also could not stand Shannan. 4. He probably wanted it done quickly and in the dark so he wouldnt have to see anyones faces, anything that might make him doubt what he is doing. No screams were heard in the middle of the night. Thanks! He just switched. Taking it off makes the breasts throb & feel more painful. The paper bags are put on the hands to transport the victim after they are found deceased as to not contaminate any potential evidence around the hands, such as DNA evidence under the fingernails. But the way he disposed of their bodies and took them out of school, I dont believe that at all. My husband and I wrestle and if he sits on my chest with my arms by my side, I cant move. But yeah I really think he was being nicer to her to assure she had her guard down when he murdered her; which was when she was sleeping, on the sofa upstairs on her phone or laptop, or god forbid he initiated some kind of intimacy that turned into her death. Not as bright. Anyway, either you get it, or you dont. Bella was face up in the oil tank. This guy had some sort of mental problem. Lo que ese animal hizo estuvo todo en su sano juicio, los borrachos dicen que hacen cosas indebidas por estar ebrios pero, este definitivamente es satans. For the sake that they did poop, youre assuming he didnt clean it up in the bed. They have no empathy, which enables them to be incrediably cruel, if it suits. If youre not OCD, it doesnt mean Shanann wasnt. So what are you saying? ~KSmallz. Chris Watts attacked her from behind, his left hand around her throat and his right hand covering her mouth and nose. I actually have been turned upside down by this murder, and through watching over 42 hours of video, have grown to love and admire Shannan! That sounds very very snarky. It could be all the thrive he was taking. Makes sense since Shanann has zero marks indicating a struggle, I thought from the jump that she wasnt even awake when he killed her. Was Shanann ever clinically diagnosed with OCD by a physician or a psychiatrist? could also suggest a Stranglehold. Frank and Sandy Rzucek, and their son Franky, tell CBS4 they have been physically, emotionally and financially exhausted by unfounded claims by conspiracy theorists who believe they played roles . The full autopsy reports are included below: Watts Aggregate Autopsy Reports by EKilloran on Scribd, MANHUNT: Hobby Lobby Distribution Center Manager Shot Dead in Altercation With Employee, 16-Year-Old High School Student Fatally Stabbed in Classroom Fight, Young Child FaceTimes for Help After 4 Members of Family Slain, Chris Watts tried to pin the murders of 3-year-old Celeste and 4-year-old Bella on his wife when he first confessed to murdering Shanann, who was 15 weeks pregnant at the time, In the video of Chris Wattss confession, previously published on. Or it might be that a place for everything and everything in its place is a good way for me to manage time being able to grab what I need when I need it without having to faff around looking for it. I think he killed the girls at the worksite. After reading the 2000 page discovery & the autopsy report & listening to the FBI agent talk about other cases I learned that smothering by manual force is done very frequently to children. No, ONE fully-formed, perfect adult and TWO fully-formed, perfect BABIES. Did you have to cover something up for Shannan? I sense some disciplinary issues, and Ive seen her being absolutely overwhelmed as to how to really effectively handle even the most basic of situations. 3. And to think CW called a co-worker @ 5pm to tell him that he would be going directly to the oil battery site and told the co-worker he didnt need to. Im sure he didnt want any questions from her or to talk about anything. That is what this whole thing boils down to, Chris not wanting a divorce for the simple fact of having to pay child support on 3 kids. Utter Rubbish! The Weld County Coroner released the complete autopsy reports of Bella, Celeste, and Shanann Watts, who were murdered by Chris Watts on August 13. Or putting her down. A person who is killed and immediately wrapped up and taken out of the home within an hour isnt going to be in rigor in that time- the first rigor shows up in about 1-2 hours, and then takes about 12 hrs to fully develop Then dissipates again about 12 hours later. Shannan would choke the like out of Watts before she hurt her kids. Watts claimed that he snapped and strangled his wife when he found her murdering the girls, but he later pleaded guilty to all three murders. He said kidnap somebody, murder somebody. Three days after the murders, on August 16, police discovered Shanann's body in a shallow grave and the girls stuffed inside nearby oil tanks on the . Its definately not most. How was she with her phone? Anyways, interesting theories guysthanks! As far as OCD I dont believe she had it This shows how little insight you have into this case, and into who Shanan was in particular. I know that OCD was mentioned on several instances in the Discovery by those who knew her, but do they have the qualifications to make that diagnosis? Thats fine, but since thats the case, its better that you head elsewhere where youll feel more comfortable. All but her office. Hope he has a wonderful time rotting and thinking about what hes done to his family. Just a suggestion. They did not even attend the wedding and barely knew their grandchildren from what I gathered. In reading about this case it would never occur to me to smother somebody in such a fashion. He was adamant that no no nothing like that happened but the female agent is sympathetic & is using a technic which is to put the blame on another person & make him feel less at fault. Here is what the International OCD Foundation says. I think he was doing this so she would feel comfortable when she got home, and would be able to sleep. Rude person. It was the early hours of the morning, she was pregnant, fed up with airport holdups and storms, and tired. No, so you have same information that anyone else has. She had everything she needed on the ground floor kitchen for food and drink, office to make haircare purchases, bathroom and toilet and a big sofa with a huge blanket left on it as shown in the initial welfare check police body-cam footage. Shanann had extensive injuries to her neck. Heres what the autopsy says about Shananns cause of death: The autopsy report said that Shanann had a history of being reported missing and subsequently found unresponsive in obvious state of death in a shallow grave. The cause of death was Asphyxiation due to manual strangulation with Bruising of the Anterior strap muscles of the neck.. I took a lot of interest in the K9 footage as I had a SAR Shore Rescue dog for 13 years (best nose in Cornwall). However, this method is especially brutal, sadistic, and intimate, as he he would see their dying eyes. I also think the MLM biz attracts people that are lost, and need to be directed and consumed by something. In the first half of this demo, you have them face to face when the attack occurs. Again, less bad publicity for LeVel. Was the examiner not able to determine the order in which Shanann and the girls were killed? How was she about her childrens allergies? Everything else was secondary or something to be minimized so she could focus on her addiction. The autopsy report said that Shanann had a "history of being reported missing and subsequently found unresponsive in obvious state of death in a shallow grave." The cause of death was. Which she combed over the menu trying to come up with that amount for one person. That discussion included stating she couldnt afford to live in Colorado as a single mom, AND she would have to immediately pull the girls out of school to save money. She said he was telling people he has to go to work and that just doesnt seem right. That alone speaks volumes how they were approaching their relationship. He knew that he would be at those oil tanks by himself that morning. I actually don't understand this and would think the opposite would actually be true. I'm not sure whether the restrictions on health related information had a bearing on this aspect, or the Thrive aspect, or both. She was organized but that is not OCD, same as me. Death is simply not pretty, nor was it meant to be. There is supposed to be a black smear mark on one of her pillows, possibly from makeup she was wearing, indicating that she was crying. I think she was going to do what most of us who suspect our man of cheating would do, see who the server was, and go to the restaurant with a pic of Chris & ask who he was in there with. A history of this procedure could easily go unnoticed during an autopsy. The police reports contain several photos showing the oil drums where the childrens bodies were found. They asked him ways to murder somebody & he said shoot someone, hit them with a club, stab them, run them over, throw them off a cliff, a bunch of other weird ways but steering wide of strangling. I really think that the pregnancy started the whole thing. She texted her GF talking about her being a single mom when she separated from Chris. Shannan's cause of death was strangulation while an autopsy found crude oil in Bella and Celeste's throats, stomach and lungs. CW said he was not a monster because in his opinion he killed them humanely. In the majority of cases of asphyxiation, petechiae are formed, and Shanann exhibited none. Maybe he lost patience with her. Ive slept in my bra for 25 years since I got my first breast implants. While I agree MLM is 100% a pyramid scheme and bad news and that the long term use of their products probably do more harm than good (e.g. Thanks! She often plied them with food and treats and I just felt like she needed to set some boundaries. Want to keep up with the latest. think mass gall stones) the bottom line is CW is a Covert Narcissist whose life would enevidably have unraveled at some point as covert express traits thus as a pattern of behavior. We cannot have that thing on earth with us. (883931) Full autopsy reports of all 3. That is simply a common misconception/stereotype that is very harmful and untrue. He resented how close they all were and was sadistic enough to hurt her. Googled ways to suffocate children? I think he would have come up with a better plan as to where he would bury them. CeCe was face down no oil inside her. I find it odd that Shanann was wearing a bra when found. I also believe he had that conversation in the morning because I dont know many women that sleep in their bras. Cyril Wect is an expert who always talks about how drowning victims have water in their lungs ONLY if they are alive during drowning and not completely dead !!!!!! Im just not comfortable sleeping without it. Poor Bella was smothered with extreme force to her face that it left bruising. Shanann was found in a shallow grave at an oil site near the drums. Did she even go upstairs to sleep? In addition, it became clear that she used bed as a punishment. There is cowardice involved but theres an easier way to attack and subdue someone than to wait for them to fall asleep. I am in Australia and I came across this story by accident and I am just horrified. Had he planned this out, he would have killed them earlier, left in the middle of the night, in the dark, to dispose of the bodiesnot as the sun was coming up as seen in the tape. The autopsy results aren't available, but the funeral and grave site suggest that Niko's remains were either removed, destroyed or buried with his mother. Everyone did think I was the nutty one by what he said cause he was a great guy to them. She tells him youll never see the kids again he flips, kills her and poor little Bella sees it. I go on youtube and so many parents are killing their kids. He doesnt have a soul!!!!! In the interrogation CW was blaming Shannan for killing the girls, and in the next breath trying to protect NK. Doesnt mean he couldnt have used his presence in the marital bed to induce her to get close to him and give him the opportunity. Thats why the strangulation was gentle, not violent, as the hyoid was not broke, and there were no defensive wounds to her or him. ShanAnn used everyone in service to her addiction, without really appearing concerned for how it was affecting them. It was already reported that Shannan evacuated her bowels when dying and that is why he took the sheet off, He told police that. He said those were consistent with trying to flee while being smothered. But think about it. Unless he threw it there and forgot to take it and planned on ridding of it. @Karen did she get dressed for bed, or did she simply take of her jeans, throw off her flip-flops and decide to settle down for a couple of hours sleep wearing the bra, panties and t-shirt that she arrived home in? GPS from Watts work truck led police to the oil well. https://www.ftc.gov/sites/default/files/documents/public_comments/trade-regulation-rule-disclosure-requirements-and-prohibitions-concerning-business-opportunities-ftc.r511993-00010%C2%A0/00010-57283.pdf. Shan'ann Watts tells her husband: "I don't want a video of you" while recording her children Chris Watts Case: What would Sherlock Holmes Do? Ive linked an article below for everyone to read about how harmful perpetuating this lie is. Before I forget one glaring mistake in the Discovery by the CBI when they did the forensic search they said they checked for traces of blood where the cadaver dogs had indicated, including the top of the basement stairs near the mudroom. Shes not going to carry her suitcase up the stairs because of her pregnant state, and she wasnt feeling well. So weird. The womans home was spotless & there was a place for everything & everything was labeled! I would say the asshole probably turned them over or put the comforter over their faces and did it that way. When youre pregnant, your chest grows significantly and pretty rapidly- its completely understandable that she might have been wearing one to bed. She had the girls in daycare full time to the tune of $500 a week, spending $28k a year per official documents, and this HAD to be a financial strain. The HORRIFIC, worse than most of us originally thought truth; Bella and Cece were ALIVE on the drive, Bella even commented on the smell of her mothers body on the floor under their feet in the back seat because her bowels had evacuated when she died; its horrific to know that he dumped those little girls, unconscious but still alive out of fear that they would wake up again and the disgusting coward and monster that he is- he said he was FURIOUS that they somehow woke up after he thought hed killed them in thier beds. Strangleholds require little physical strength. Would love your thoughts, please comment. His aversion to it is so blatant, and its obvious why. Simply stated, you are an ignorant human being, Badmouthing the vicitm like that when she can not defend herself. Bella Watts Autospy Report Time needed to cause petechiae is; Fifteen to thirty seconds (Anscombe and Knight 1996); Ten to thirty seconds (Plattner et al 2005); Fifteen seconds maximum (Copley & Kozam 1951) using the capillary fragility test; Shortly after gravity inversion in healthy individuals (Friberg & Weinreb 1985) Very hard to think a dad can do that but my ex just turned, didnt want any of his family anymore and still has very little contact for the past 8 years. At the time of her death, Shanann had been 15 weeks pregnant (via MEAWW). August 4, 2018, 12:45 a.m.: Shanann sends her husband a long text message accusing him of failing to stand up for her after his parents exposed their daughter Celeste to nuts, which she was allergic to. He runs into Ceces room & walks up to Shannan. I expect they also make youtube channels of women doing things wrong to say why they hate women, even if men usually do more of those things, If he killed her downstairs how would there have been no movement on main floor shortly after she got home. Infuriating! (942948) Interview with NK about CW's failing marriagehe badmouthed SW a lot . Do you think that maybe she was actually just unconscious? The body is that of a well-developed, well-nourished Caucasian female whose appearance is generally consistent with the I also believe he would have thought out a better place to bury them. And then you test it in various scenarios. Kick him? Peanuts and tree nuts are VERY different, and supposedly CeCe had a *tree nut* allergy coconut, not peanuts! Just a thought. The children were in 20 foot tanks with hatches on top. Required fields are marked *. I know plenty of women who wear their bras to sleep, myself included. The reports had been sealed until the outcome of the trial. Its something so outside my wheelhouse that I didnt even know it could me done. The ethanol levels are perplexing though; even in decomposition they are rarely above .07. Im a survivor. Its hard to fight a larger man off of you when held down, in fear of dying and trying to gasp for air. Did Chris Watts not mind his wife Shanann humiliating him on Facebook? Her house was immaculate, I envy that she was able to keep everything like that. Chris said Shanann arrived home from a trip. Stomach: The stomach contains approximately 75mls of viscous green-black fluid which is suggestive of oil and particulate matter from the oil tank which she was in. Remember that Chris was sleeping in the basement at this time so they werent sharing a bed. Police photoA sheet was found near where Shanann was buried. And all I can see is ShanAnns MLM addiction coupled with the desire to live well beyond her means, to give an impression that she was rich-rich-rich, which Im sure she envisioned as a way to promote her business get new people to sign on. Then he felt he had to kill CeCe too. Those were my kids. He claimed he saw Shanann on top of Cece and that they were blue. He said he lost it and choked Shanann. And, as you point out in one of your replies to anothers comment about the oil in her body, there was no oil in her lungs, in her stomach yes, in her lungs no. The reports show that the bodies of both little girls were placed inside oil containers with a narrow opening that was only 8 inches in diameter. OCD can be like gluten-sensitivities. Smothering is albeit horrific, a more a gentle or approach that a mother may take. And did you mention that the 6 weeks Shannan was in NC with her girls that your Hero Chris Watts was enjoying 6 weeks of being single with his girlfriend, and that was the turning point in their marriage? (Oh and the bra with pregnant women 100% The T and underwear sleep outfit? Theres plenty of liqueurs that are very well hidden in frozen shakes etc. I dont think she ever went into the master bedroom that night. Bella was wearing pink pajama-type top with images of hearts and butterflies. Poor thing. Now i fully beleive NK was in on plan, her idea to put bodies in tanks to help disolve them. If thats the case I cant figure where else they would have been at that time. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0411/12/lkl.01.html, https://shakedowntitle.com/tag/scott-peterson/, http://www.timescall.com/ci_32281483/autopsy-reports-show-shanann-watts-daughters-were-asphyxiated, https://letsqueerthingsup.com/2018/05/12/i-didnt-know-i-had-ocd-heres-why-the-stereotypes-are-so-harmful/, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYC7bHIzuqE, https://crimerocket.com/2018/11/02/shanann-watts-intended-to-brand-baby-niko-and-credit-thrive-for-her-perfect-pregnancy-but-her-plan-backfired/, https://www.marketwatch.com/story/this-woman-made-a-life-changing-decision-after-her-husband-gave-600000-to-a-cult-2017-07-10, Christopher Watts: What else do we know? But from Molletts work, it seems the alcohol levels in Shananns body were normal. It was on an automatic answering thing. No traces of fecal material found, but in the Rohde case there were fecal traces. Remember, she was pregnant. Mark, that is really interesting! The graphic autopsy reports detail the condition of all three bodies after they were recovered from an oil site owned by Anadarko Petroluem, where Chris Watts buried them. Based on the history provided and the autopsy findings, the cause of death is asphyxiation due to smothering. From what I understand its not possible to swallow fluids once youre dead. Watts, a 33-year-old Colorado oil worker, killed his wife, Shanann, who was 15 weeks pregnant, along with his two daughters aged three and four on August 13, 2018. When the girls were not at daycare, and at home, they took very long naps, and also had a 6:30 pm bedtime, sleeping 630-6:30. I meant three perfectly formed humans. Good point! Thankyou. Chris Watts advised that blankets and stuffed animals were left by the sheet which was near Shananns grave. Please, if he was worried about the kids, then why did he kill them as well. Thankfully that psych warned me I should take the children somewhere to be safe. I was terrified gravity would wreck my boobs. First off she was supposed to have been in a rage enough to have been snuffing the life out of her daughter & then when she sees the object of her rage that caused this who then starts to fight with her & strangle her she doesnt dig her nails into him anywhere? Nick Van Der Leek is the owner of this site and you are invited to comment, which is a privilege and we should be grateful. I have to wonder if somehow she woke up and saw what happened to her Mommy. Your email address will not be published. Here is the parts in Shanann's autopsy report that says the stuff about how her hair was sloughing, that she had skin slippage & bloating/decomposing had started. And honestly Im sure he had a lot of time on his hands to do stuff. For starters there was only ONE cadaver dog (the Lab) who indicated only TWO places in the house the spot in the basement between the stairs and the heating system fan, and by the rear sliding door! The autopsy reports for Shanann Watts and her two young daughters show that all three were asphyxiated to death, and it's probable that 4-year-old Bella Watts fought for her life. As previously reported, Shanann Watts was 15 weeks pregnant at the time of her murder, with a baby boy the couple had already named Niko. I do believe that she may have been the one who smothered the children because she was so controlling, according to friends and family, that she didnt want another woman around her kids. I wondered if there was a fight, Bella saw him strangle her mother and ran into the basement to hide from him. It is a condition that causes you to have irrational and uncontrolled thoughts, and the only way to make the thoughts stop, is to perform a ritual. On Aug. 13, 2018, Chris strangled Shanann, 34, in their Colorado home. My closets and nightstand is much cleaner than hers and I dont have OCD. I learned all about a Sleeper/Chokeholdhated that part of SO academy, but is a great way to gain upper-hand, control over a perp and render them unconscious with one thump of my forearm on their neck/carotid artery.,, you black out immediately! Also zero evidence that she was in bed. The next morning, visible fingerprints (the circular marks on Shaanns autopsy), so visible that others took notice. He says with a halphazard yeah she was like for sure gone, she was blue, and no beats, no breaths, nothing. Chris was plainly seen in the neighbors security video loading a red gas can into the back of his truck. Then probably went to bed & I guarantee he was in their bed not in the basement & this made her happy. Ella no tomaba ni la basura tampoco, lo dijo la nana de las bebs. Powered by. Also, if memory serves, CW did at least one load of laundry on the night in question. All those purchases, that expensive leased SUV that LeVel would only give her a car allowance for if she kept her sales up, the expensive preschool, the too-big house with all the fancy furnishings, several closets full of expensive shoes-shoes-shoes (yet she wore the same pair of flipflops every day), multiple purses, more clothes than one person could possibly be using, on and on and on. One of the unknowns in this case is why Watts did what he did. Mommys earned this. It seems likely she even planned to use her pregnancy and 3rd child in service to her MLM addiction see https://crimerocket.com/2018/11/02/shanann-watts-intended-to-brand-baby-niko-and-credit-thrive-for-her-perfect-pregnancy-but-her-plan-backfired/. It wouldnt have mattered about sleeping in the same bra and panties as shed travelled in she was going to be waking up at 4am when Chris woke as shed asked him to wake her and the hair care product purchase attempt was around 2am, so what would 2 more hours mean? Watts, who had initially reported them missing and had made a public plea for their return, was arrested as he admitted to killing them. Im wondering if he had bipolar. 2. He was a mechanic. And fyi, I am not going to use the actual pictures/videos in my project. Gallstones form over a period of time, raised hormone levels in pregnancy contribute to them. Police photos I remember reading as part of the Scott Peterson murder investigation that they found traces of fecal matter in the carpet (which had been cleaned) in a downstairs hallway, I think, but I just looked around and couldnt find anything, so I must have mis-remembered. C . At the end of the day there are no good reasons to commit murder, especially of ones own flesh and blood, but there may be valuable lessons to learn from figuring out how this could have happened. Oil water and sludge debris in the stomach.. Watts pleaded guilty to murdering Shanann, Celeste and Bella to avoid the death penalty. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Your email address will not be published. Completely empty stomach contents doesnt necessarily indicate they died when Shanann died. So completely terrible. Its a matter of body position. Not everyone poops when they die, in fact most do not. He needed to be executed. Seemed to me like she kept everything clean that you could see. And Ive also learned a LOT about her between videos, and every page of the 1,960 pages of documents released by authorities under Colorado statute. ShanAnn claimed to be pulling down $80,000 a year. FACT: I didnt know what else to do. No. Your thoughts? of OCD triggers and symptoms. Police reportsThe oil drums where the bodies were found. Lastly and not related to your book, I continuously read people stating that the only bruises on Shananns body were the on the right side of her neck. Its good that youre trying to demonstrate this and see it through. Rossen et al 1943 states that loss of consciousness occurs in five to eleven seconds where there has been carotid and vertebral artery compression. Chris came home and gave consent to search and said that he found Shananns wedding ring on the night stand. Thats a power-nap another thing MLM folk are good at. But considering she seemed to be an amazing mother, I highly doubt she was drinking. So I do see how Chris did this and ended up with no defensive injuries from her. In his story he goes downstairs & hears commotion goes into the bedroom & sees Bella on her bed with covers off & then Shannan on top of CeCe. The t-shirt she was found in looks very similar to the one she is seen wearing in the neighbours cctv footage of her arrival back home. 75 mls is about 5 tablespoons or a third of a standard cup. I dont think enough people are looking at the theory that Chris had flipped a switch with her in the days leading to her death. Ethanol makes sense, especially because it could be disguised in the chemicals themselves. Air chokes have been associated with fractures of the larynx or hyoid bone and are considered less safe than blood chokes in these applications. Cause if it was the way CW said she would have fought back. A . @Carol: OCD appears at least 5 times in the Discovery Documents. The reports concluded that all three victims died of asphyxiation Shanann was strangled while the two girls were smothered, according to the reports. Thats a harsh indictment to a woman who cant defend herself. 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