2013 X3 N20 28i. now I have a question for you and hoping to get a direction. Please note the displayed battery voltage reading in the repair order comments section. New chain and guides and so far no problems. The car started fine the first time and every time since. BMW Fault Code Lookup Enter a BMW fault code (P or hex), complete the Captcha, and click "Search" P-Codes will start with a P and are usually generated by generic scanners. My question is, when I remove the central valve, will the timing chain or sprockets will slip their position? This is not a recall. The production date of the car was 2015-11-17. My engine is N52 I have checked timing multiple times, I found this article online and this is what Im thinking right now!! If performing other ISTA diagnostics and related test plans results with eligible and covered It revs fine but with the turbo disabled a drive around the block is at a pedestrian pace. Or maybe the fuel that would be implicated! Enter the Chassis Number, https://www.bmwtis.net/tiscode/cgi-bin/bulletin.aspx?sie_path=/tsb/bulletins/htm_store/158 1/6/2014 I got a few drivetrain malfunctions last week: 131501 vanos, intake, cold start; not adjustable 120408 reduced power mode. It idles fine and sounds much better than before. Hi Chip.. Did you ever come across a step by step procedure in doing this? The Service Engine Soon lamp and Engine Malfunction warning are illuminated, and the vehicle The first start up gave many more codes but I have cleared the fault codes several times and these two appear along with the consequence fault code of 120408 Charge pressure control off. The engine was idling when it happened. possible oil pump chain broken? dtc are 131401 and 131501 . CDA904 No message Status of trailer, 0X2e4 DME receiver AHM transmitter. no hesitation. Brought it to a second mechanic. Maybe not as loud as before but still noisy. Could this be the timing chain? to model implausibly too high . Code 130104 Vanos intake control fault camshaft stuck This situation can occur as a customer complaint, or after performing 130108 VANOS, intake, control fault, position not reached No car manufacturer is going to tell you the problems with their car,,,they are just worried about the sale of that car,,,,not what is wrong with that car. or N20/N26 is an attemptof BMWAG to reclaim 4-cylinder glory from the past, e.g. Now im getting vanos inlet, outlet codes, along with vanos camshaft jammed for both intake and exhaust. Dash lights up with transmission gear exclamation point and lift ramp both in yellow. Page 2 of 4 Great blog here..dear BMWTech amy idea of the failure rate of the N20/26 timing chain..is it 30%? 131401 Symptoms when timing chain fails is engine wont start,,,engine wont turn over,,,,have your mechanics see if he can turn the motor over by hand with a breaker bar on the front crank bolt. But one of the passages might have had some trash in it. Learn how your comment data is processed. It looks like the car is on this recall list. 108f01 It is possible without the timing tools, but if you risk needing to re-time the engine if something moves. Looks all good. Tried test with ista for vanos solenoid test removed solenoid stiff does not move when activated. ISTA says these errors: Im wondering do I need to have the 7/70 warranty to get covered on this timing chain problem? 130308 VANOS, exhaust, control fault, position not reached The fuel pump tank pressure is good when i check but when i read the data for fuel rail its very low and drop right back to 0.. Code 131501 Variable camshaft timing control VANOS intake cold start- not controllable Yes you can check the oil pressure,,,also when the mechanic performed the timing chain repairs the oil pan was off and hopefully he checked the oil pump screen for and debris and cleaned it out. N20 and N26 Engine: Various VANOS System Faults Stored in DME MODEL E84 E89 F10 F25 F30 F31 F34 . I got this issue and luckily BMW covered it 100%. F10, F25, F30, F31 and F34 Hello there. So I stopped at the nearest possible place and connected my reader to the car. I am troubleshooting an issue with it already for weeks now and unfortunately I was not able to find the root cause yet. designates changes to this revision So far I reset it and it's gone and drove it like 30 miles but kinda worried . Looking forward to the return of your blog. I was told by a mechanic that the engine was done, simply by information from a scan. Charging pressure control: Switch-off as consequence 131401 Intermittent VANOS (variable cam shaft timing) exhaust cold start not controllable and I would go to the dealer and have the engine scanned to see what fault came up,,,better to be safe then sorry. Sorry I dont see any video,,,,ok when you say the starter and engine dont appear to make attempt to start,,,,,question does the engine turn over when you are trying to start the car,,,,,question does the engine make any sound when trying to start the car,,,if the engine does not turn over when trying to start car,,,,try and turn the engine by hand from the front lower crankshaft bolt and see if the engine will turn. But the solutions havent worked for me. Reduced power" warning, 745i 2002 - Engine Malfunction - reduced power, If this is your first visit, be sure to Code 131501 returned. Ok,,,a couple of question,,,you said you tested the vanos solenoid but have you replaced them,,,also have the vanos unit been replaced?,,,,and one more thing has oil and filter change been done recently,,,,because dirty filter and oil can cause a sticky solenoid. Ok Ill do that. You could replace the tensioner if you like,,,you should be ok since your car was probably built in 2015.,,,,you could ask your local dealership on what they think about your car and the timing chain issue. The only fault was still the boost disable fault. I am quite surprised to see that in Europe there is no one who has reported this problem, whereas with you in the United States it seems very frequent. I assume it will need to be replaced just because its higher in milage but do you think BMW would warranty it out knowing that theyve said it was lifetime of the vehicle? Most auto repairs shops charge between $75 and $150 per hour. Cleaned spark plugs and as the mileage was 65000 so I changed the timing chain with a TOOL also. Today I changed Chain tensioner as preventative maintenance, but soon I start the car, I got Drivetrain Malfunction. No I dont think it is covered,,,and what lifetime of the vehicle are you talking about. F25 Your email address will not be published. Any thoughts!!! Coul it be timming change or leak some where? This is due to a diagnostic programming error in the DME. Should I proactively replace the timing chain tensioner, part number 11318685091 (replaces part number 11317567680)? The year of 2012 was a year of impending upgrades in . The fault returns when its hot outside and comes back even faster when I turn on the air conditioning. Turn the ignition on. Required fields are marked *. Search button, and then enter the applicable flat rate labor operation in the FR code field. Hi Andreas, This question has appeared in your blog before. or can I slowly unscrew the center valve and insert a new one? They look ok. Do you think it can be a ECU or software related issue? Note: When the ISTA system message displays: Battery voltage only XX.XX V. Please connect So I thing exhaust vanos is not working, or not working correctlycan I get in touch with you? I had to replace the valve lifters. Thoughts?? When the VANOS units were removed there was no visible trash. I saw a video where the chap replaced it without the locks and I thought it was an easy DIY. What would happen if I resent the adaptations with increment wheel/. To set the timing properly you have to be sure the Vanos units are locked its end position, so its moving 1:1 with the camshaft. I hate to take it to the junk yard. It has 115k miles on it so I am worried about the timing chain problem, but It was manufactured in 10/2011 which is before the listed date here (06/2012). Hi, I have a 2015 x1 with an April 2015 manufacture date. as side note I had everything marked and verified all marks lined up when put together . Thank you in advance. The car is as we speak back to the dealer for further diagnose and they have seen a slight difference in the crankshaft position or something like that.. one of the shafts was not in the correct angle. The BMW N20 is a 1.6 and 2.0 L (98 and 122 cu in) turbocharged four-cylinder DOHC petrol engine with variable valve lift and variable valve timing which replaced the N53 (or BMW N52 in some markets) and was produced from 2011 to 2017 by BMW. Rather it is no cost extended warranty in Canada. WARRANTY INFORMATION code:131501 VANOS, intake, cold start: not controllable. Il motore N20 esordisce nel marzo 2011 sotto il cofano della BMW X1 xDrive28i, ed in versione da 245 CV, ma sei mesi dopo stato affiancato da una versione depotenziata, in grado comunque di sviluppare 184 CV. Hi bmwtechnician, 131908-VANOS inlet: cold start, Position not reached. Location: Chicago. If so, can i buy the warranty for a used car now? Everything else works perfectly at 176,000km. Is it possible to remove the snap ring and take out the VANOS spool valve, spring and check ball for cleaning with the VANOS unit in the engine? Maybe a stupid question but I noticed the f31 328i xdrive is mentioned on the form but not the rw ? What about the rest? I appreciate your help. If one of the applicable faults listed above is stored in the DME then continue with the Yes that crack in the timing chain guide should be enough to replace the timing chain and guide rails,,,,the way we decide if the car is covered is by whine noise,rattle noise,broken pieces of timing chain guide,,,how before we get the extended warranty that is hard to say,,,it all depends on the legal side of the lawsuit Im sorry to say. Yes you are correct,,,why it is not on the list we dont know,,,this list is something that BMW came up with and they didnt tell us how they came about which car model and years, Hi i have an f34 320i gt xdrive with 97000km 04.07.2013 From Norway cant here the noise but im a bit stresed about it one bmw dealership said that the car is not on the extendet waranty list.Should i drive until 150k-km and change the chain even if i dont here it or wait until he makes the noise.If is x-drive does it get used faster then Rw.And why so many 328I afected and not so many 320i? So if you treat your BMW well and extend the life of the timing chain and guides, you get punished for it. My car have no error code, product 4/2012 with no tune. It is really a shame that BMW does not communicate on the subject, especially since here in Europe the problem is not repeated while in the United States it seems widespread. Or turbo charger, Do you guys fix the issue ?! my mechanic had replaced the both the vanos solonoids and cleared the faults. But, it will need to be adjusted and tested properly using genuine BMW software. I have a X1 E84 with the N20 engine. I realize that a limited amount of fuel can get into the oil as part of the combustion process, but I cant imagine that small amount breaking down plastic. The details of the settlement if approved by court will extend timing chain and oil pump drive chain to 8 years/100000 miles(which ever comes first). Ill check my gas cap but I need to clear this code. Bringing the BMW community together. 2D5A VANOS, intake, control fault, camshaft jammed The VANOS function test showed that both VANOS units were working. I remove the spark plugs all 4 complete soaked and i also remove the Dinan piggy back complete and connect harness direct to DME I also replace the DME with use one [CLONE] still no start but i notice when i crack one of the injector line the fuel pressure is very low which normal be busting out the lines, fuel pump shaft is not broken and no DTC. The improved DME software was introduced This Service Information bulletin supersedes SI B12 15 13 dated September 2013. module. If you are using a Main labor code for This documentation is not necessary when part of an approved Technical Service repair procedure; C. F30 December 2013 I would love to listen to your video,,,please send it. Are there many vehicles that run on ethanol in the United States? CAUSE I am not sure if it was the wrong filter. Hello question I have 428xi n26 sulev f32 and I was looking at my key reader report and where it says Software version/updates section: I-level current integration level of vehicle F020-19-07-539. Turbo engines are more complex and require several . 2011 BMW 535i [0.00] 535i drivertrain malfunction. It has never been in an accident and the body is in excellent shape. its really a shame that BMW does not step up. Thanks for responding. Today my engine shut off while I was driving. So now I have one BMW expert telling me its loose and should be taken care of by the dealership, and the dealership is telling me everything is good to go, no problems. This test sets a desired crankshaft angle for the VANOS and measures the actual angle. 3: 130304 VANOS (Variable camshaft timing) exhaust: control fault, camshaft stuck Two days were spent clearing fault codes and performing function tests. Or will my timing chain, etc. Thank You very much for the reply !! Even though work time labor operation code 61 00 006 ends in 006, it is not considered a Main If you are interested here is the rest of the story. 2002 M10 4-cylinder from 1962-1988, and N20/N26 has so many attributes to be legendary. Do not replace any parts. New battery installed. This turbocharged 2.0L inline-four was considered a replacement to the BMW N52 a naturally-aspirated, inline-six engine. Good day. Im going to trade. SHAME ON BMW!!!!! I just purchased a 2016 228i xDrive Cabriolet (manufactured in Germany) with 46k kilometers for my wife. I ask because here ethanol is not too widespread and should not represent more than 1% of vehicles on the gasoline market. Yesterday I did get all the fault codes cleared. Please advice me how can I go about with the local dealer? Yes, for mine BMW was due to a fault to the timing chain tensioner. Am I free of concern? Thanks you! Seems like the locking pins are stuck. Did they use a different timing chain guide before 06/2012 ? Also after cold start also misfire error pops up. After several engine stop/start cycles there were still no faults. I took it to the bmw for a diagnostic and they said that Im just better off replacing the engine than trying to find out what is wrong with the car. N20 and N26 Engine: Various VANOS System Faults Stored in DME Thats a good possibility thats the timing chain issue. Its a bit like on the list, the block of 20i and 28i is quite close, so why one seems more impacted than the other (the higher torque?). They also got me up to speed on the known timing chain issues, extended 7yr/70,000 mile extended warranty and class action lawsuit stuff. Entdecken Sie SKF VKMA38227 Keilrippenriemensatz Keilriemen Satz Keilriemensatz fr BMW in der groen Auswahl bei eBay. F10 When I go to accelerate now, the engine lags. Hi bmw technician. F10, F25, F30, F31 and F34: check got vanos dtc come to relies i switch the cam gears when i install them so i correct it after veh cranks but no start check timming over like 3 time it good. Timing is performed by the timing chain. Nope,,,,its up to the dealership to make the call for BMW if they will fix the timing chain issue on your car under the TSB. Code 132408 Vanos Exhaust Intake camshaft not locking at start up My vehicle was produced in 1/2013 with N20 engine and is currently at 97K miles, I have previously posted my engine whining sound in your blog and you said it was timing chain whining, I took a picture of my timing chain guide rail when replacing valve cover gasket and there was a slight crack on timing chain guide rail do you think thats enough evidence for the dealership to approve timing chain warranty on my vehicle? Page 1 of 4 Reprogram the vehicle ISTA/P 2.50.4 or higher. You only touched an accessories belt part. I appreciate any input. Yann Wehrling, vice-prsident de la rgion le-de-France, charg de la Transition cologique, et Patrice Leclerc, maire de Gennevilliers et Prsident du groupe Front De Gauche la . It has the N26 engine, factory warranty has expired. If the fault code for camshaft position sensor goes away or swaps position from intake to exhaust (or vice versa), the fault code is being caused by the VANOS solenoid. Hi. F34 The documentation claimed that it would take one minute for the VANOS cold start faults to appear. The extended warranty runs out in December. We purchased it from a BMW dealership, they didnt mention any potential issues with the timing chain components. When engine starts cam shaft on exhaust goes all the way to the end. repairs to the engine valve train assembly. Example: 180101 or 1B9308 or 30FF Enter fault code Emissions Standard During highway driving the car drives fine. The Bank 1 on the definition refers to the side of the engine that has the cylinder #1. Was it coincidental and maybe the bits of trash in the both VANOS spool valves cleared at the exact same time? procedure outlined below. Example: P1055 Hex Codes are typically given by more advanced scanners. Just replaced timing chain and oil pump module on n20 13 528i xdrive. Now how I understand it is this is not a timing issue. Well, you could, but it's a slim chance you get the length of the rod exactly right. Ok the charge boost pressure fault is related to the vanos faults,,,,the vanos faults could be a couple of things but since you just replaced the timing chain maybe the timing is not correct on the intake vanos unit? https://www.bmwtis.net/tiscode/cgi-bin/bulletin.aspx?sie_path=/tsb/bulletins/htm_store/158 1/6/2014 Its hard to say without performing some test with a diagnostic equipment. I guess I can continue to enjoy the car and see what happens or sell it. Can the timing chain issue be identified through scoping? Now I'm getting the drivetrain malfunction every time I start my car. The BMW N20 is a 4-cylinder, turbocharged engine produced from 2011-2017, and was BMW's replacement for the naturally aspirated 3.0L 6-cylinder N52/N53 engines. BMW wont tell us why some models have problems and some dont,,,,it could be because of horsepower,,,,,you could replace tensioner if you want,,,,,it wouldnt hurt anything, Thanks for the reply i think its 220i and 320i uses the exact engine N20 my F22 2014 car now has 105000kms since its not in the list , in general what do u advice me to do shall i just keep my ears alerted to sounds or u advise me to take to service center and maintain the chain so i can save the engine ? 2011 BMW 535i [ 0.00 ] 535i drivertrain malfunction I buy the warranty for a car! I understand it is no cost extended warranty in Canada a shame that BMW does not move activated. Auto repairs shops charge between $ 75 and $ 150 per hour understand it is this due! 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