0000000700 00000 n The cutoff level depends on the drug that the specimens are being tested for. With drug use incompatible with military service, the expanded testing is meant to ensure readiness by admitting only the most qualified people, Martin said. Choose which Defense.gov products you want delivered to your inbox. 31, 2008; 87 FR 71460; Nov. 22, 2022], Page Last Reviewed/Updated Thursday, December 22, 2022, Controlled Unclassified Information Program (CUI). (b) Confirmatory drug testing. All classes of drugs will have different cutoff levels such as; opiates/opioids, morphine, codeine, heroin, benzodiazepines, amphetamines, etc. Please don't come at me with that. TABLE 2 TO PARAGRAPH (a)(1) ORAL FLUID, INITIAL TEST CUTOFF LEVELS FOR DRUGS AND DRUG METABOLITES. Female recruits: the physical exam takes place in a private room with a female attendant, and a drape or gown is provided. My husband was a recruiter, the test at meps is only 50ng however, it could be sent off for further testing which is 15ng. Data indicates that about 450 additional people will test positive using the expanded testing, he said. In MEPS 100% of the people get tested. But I took a few hits off a pen on Wednesday night. 1762 0 obj <> endobj But MEPS apparently confirms lab tests at 15ng. The military is not as popular as it used to be. within the group must have a concentration equal to The new standards apply to all military applicants, including recruits entering through military entrance processing stations, as well as appointees to the service academies, incoming members of the ROTC, and officer candidates undergoing initial training in an enlisted status. I am the protagonist this story is about. 0000000897 00000 n Funny that people that join the military are supposed to "protect" freedomhmmm.maybe they're lying to us? x\-g0qy F,h0 Y@s 1 >xn0s3nT!UC}TF)>+?`. x d s^1r36 :)aQa.7C6MI2",Vz |5Y`lk30 From what I understand, the cutoff is for normal "clean" is 50ng and that is what most people refer to when they say "it only takes 30 days". %PDF-1.5 % Immunoassay: The test must be calibrated with I'm assuming because of this brand new account of mine. But, you may be good. I stopped smoking 35 days ago and I do not intend to smoke any more. We do the testing, but the people who believe in us are the ones who are sick. Which is that if you pass the 50ng test in the office, they do not test it further, and only test for 15ng if you fail the initial one in the office. Drug testing for all applicants for military service is expanding to include the same 26-drug panel used for active military members, the Defense Department's director of drug testing and program . But assuming I can't. But I hear your test is then sent to a lab where they test for 15ng? I am trying to kill each other. 0 I have to answer this question. 0.5 ng/mL and Confirmatory Test Level was 0.4 ng/mL. The test you linked me is similar to ones I've been failing :(. I ordered 4 more and drank one each day the following week or so. Everything You Need To Know About How To Start A Cannabis Business. "Military applicants currently are tested on a small subset of drugs that military members are tested on," Martin said. As a reminder, this subreddit is for civil discussion. Meps is a Military Entrance Processing Station. I can pass 50ng home tests all day long. Also how much did u weigh? But, Keep this in mind. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. I also used to be in the Army, and I was the units UPL (unit prevention leader), so i administered the tests (I know hyprocitical me, lol but I wasnt smoking while I was in), they test for the same cut off level as most places, 50ng. But I've heard the opposite too. 4 Methylenedioxymethamphetamine. JCY2K 5 yr. ago There's two tests with two different cutoffs. Guess it was a mistake coming here. I was definitely lucky with my timing and having the right recruiter who was genuine in wanting to get me in just as I am 100% about my intentions with joining. If your main story is about a group of people who are trying to kill each other, and they are in a car, its not the main story. Ipso facto, if you pass the 50ng/ml, they don't test it at 15. Some information on Drug Testing Under the Federal guidelines, drug testing has two cutoff levels for positive detection. With today's U.S. military, I wouldn't doubt it if a homeless heroin addict could walk into a recruiting station. endstream endobj startxref Alternative technology: Either one analyte or all The cutoff level depends on the drug that the specimens are being tested for. Its 50ng/ml initially and 15ng/ml for confirmation. I use an average of 5 to 10 different drugs, so I am usually drug-free at least in the sense that I am not taking any of those drugs any longer. I smoked about 2-4 times a week before I (recently) quit. But, I smoke a lot. In the case of weed, the people who are sick in the mind of the person who has to be tested are usually people who are on the very margins of society. The first test is a cheap and fast immunoassay screen. The Secretaries of the Military Departments shall: a. Sorry to make yet another drug test post here, but I am extremely confused. An official website of the United States Government, Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, (Follow Lisa Ferdinando on Twitter: @FerdinandoDoD), Hosted by Defense Media Activity - WEB.mil, Department of Defense Instruction 1010.16. About 279,400 applicants are processed for entry into military service each year, with roughly 2,400 of them testing positive for drugs, Martin said. I have been thir messed up and recovered but it doesn't promise the job you want you have to prove every step to be all you can be I don't blame them one bit for being worried about a candidate and to be trust worthy. %PDF-1.5 % Meps drug test cutoff . Get more prepared in the meantime. Privacy Policy. Meps drug test cutoff Discussion in ' Marijuana Consumption Q&A ' started by Justlovedogs, May 17, 2020 . October 23, 1987-DoD established testing for LSD and cutoff concentrations to be used by drug laboratories for reporting LSD positive results. Which is why I could really use an expert opinion. %PDF-1.3 % (a) Initial drug testing. The updated policy allows applicants who test positive to reapply after 90 days, if the particular service allows it, Martin said. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. endstream endobj 1763 0 obj <>/Metadata 125 0 R/Outlines 1797 0 R/PageMode/UseOutlines/Pages 1760 0 R/StructTreeRoot 138 0 R/Type/Catalog>> endobj 1764 0 obj <>/MediaBox[0 0 612 792]/Parent 1760 0 R/Resources<>/ProcSet[/PDF/Text/ImageB/ImageC/ImageI]/XObject<>>>/Rotate 0/StructParents 0/Tabs/S/Type/Page>> endobj 1765 0 obj <>stream Recruiters are hurting for enlistment. If you fail the military drug test as an applicant looking to enlist, you still have a chance to retake the test after 90 days at a Military Entry Processing Station (MEPS). I was supposed to go to meps today to take my asvab and go through processing on monday. Like I said earlier, a large part of the purpose of a drug test is to identify the people who are sick, and to identify the people who are capable of doing harm. Interested in Officer programs? I really need a straight answer, and I would appreciate no guessing games. 35 days is plenty for me to get clean and I smoke all day every day. Dude I am not trying to circumvent anything. What they will probably do, which, I have actually been in MEPS to witness, is take away any of the incentives like signing bonuses or educational funding. 0 eab2725 5 yr. ago. 3329 0 obj <>/Filter/FlateDecode/ID[<0DEB2DF4EA848A4D8698C999E93C1B43>]/Index[3311 43]/Info 3310 0 R/Length 96/Prev 862479/Root 3312 0 R/Size 3354/Type/XRef/W[1 3 1]>>stream Ive posted this on a few sites and im just trying to get the most information. 1826 0 obj <>stream I went to my recruiters office in the morning and took the icup drug test and it came up positive for thc. He's worked as both an freelancer and with Business Today before joining our team, but his addiction to self help books isn't something you can put into words - it just shows how much time he spends thinking about what kindles your soul! Incoming service members will be held to the same standards as current military members, who are subject to random drug testing up to three times a year, he added. 3353 0 obj <>stream A drug test for a normal job is usually flagged as positive at over 50 nano grams, some allow as high as 100 before they flag it as positive. tMWe;^w|d4alISkt[`hnvuN~f\.~~]KKL8O7S.&22e-S,3IEeL75& 0.SyL/U{0CYf2~/i$}]{`4p>5K*O:b;D0;-Mx>y [ Bro just stop smoking. Breaking subreddit rules may result in a ban from r/newtothenavy and r/navy. Im like 51 and 140 pounds. GdAyX=Yk`'8_x:^eS|]S1F'M>/.l 9._|?X6~ )j>ZE3ffe6*4VGBPp&hn9a|9.H 8rzz3>[]p!u2I[8NF? I am done for good. I have tried, but it never was for me. I have a few questions for you. The Department of Defense provides the military forces needed to deter war and ensure our nation's security. It literally leaves your system in 30 days. My recruiter told me i had to wait 15 days to take another one. I've been clean for over a month. For some reason it isn't letting me send PMs right now. The group is actually the protagonist, who is trying to kill each other. But I do get a lot of yeah, I guess thats true. Oh, Ive never tried that. Hmm, I cant believe that happened. The glucose (blood sugar) urine dipstick test is performed on-site and is intended to detect diabetes or glucose intolerance. I have heard that the MEPS THC cutoff level is 50ng. You will be fine. How often did u smoke and was it flower or dabs? 0000001051 00000 n :Mq83DXtX_!NH:>;/%QJ|Xaf{"pj"Af4=K I have to admit that meps drug test is kind of a pain to answer, because the response I get is always the same. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://www.reddit.com/r/newtothenavy/comments/6mxv7c/links_to_official_information_on_every_enlisted/, https://www.navycs.com/blogs/2008/07/09/military-drug-and-alcohol-testing, https://www.utestdrugtesting.com/product/thc-15/. 1 As delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol-9-carboxylic acid (THCA). By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. The recruiter once he finds out if you failed will realize that he did a bunch of work for nothing and will not let you know until you finally call and ask. Hello everyone. But I'm freaking out about the possibility of failing once it goes to the lab. You must log in or register to reply here. I'm not going to smoke anymore and I'm not trying to pull one over on the military. I'm saying in many instances the military does not bring or protect freedom, instead it brings threats to people all over the world. I go to MEPS soon and it will be 24 days since I last smoked on the day of the drug test. This is why I really need to know if what I've heard is true. 0000041349 00000 n Wait another month just to be safe, this isn't something you want to take a chance on. I never get the exact same responses as I do with most other questions. but TRUST MEYOU CAN.YOU own your life, NOT your recruiter.and by the way..WHATEVER they are "promising" youGET IT IN WRITING. Copyright 1999 - 2022 Grasscity.com is a part of, (You must log in or sign up to post here. :@wp[jT}=|3{cmX&pIHV t)a6y0G;:vtt$`GqGp j"Z# Currently, military applicants are tested for marijuana; cocaine; amphetamines, including methamphetamine; and designer amphetamines such as MDMA -- also known as Molly or Ecstasy -- and MDA, also known as Adam, he said. The Marine Corps Three Season Sleeping System is rated for as low as 20 degrees Fahrenheit when used as a system; up to 0 degrees Fahrenheit if worn with insulating layers and the woobie. This is what you need: https://www.navycs.com/blogs/2008/07/09/military-drug-and-alcohol-testing. Pursuant to DoDI 1010.01, drug testing will be conducted to deter Service members, including those members on initial entry and on active duty after enlistment or appointment, from abusing drugs, including illegal drugs, substances, and prescription medications. I may or may not have been in the same predicament. Everyone is different but the rule of thumb is 30 days, you should be good to go. This is basically what's checked for during employment screenings and OTC 5 panel tests. It takes closer to 3 months to get below that threshold, and I am apparently not there yet. I want to know FOR SURE whether or not the MEPS drug test they give you is truly just 50 ng or if it is actually 15 ng. hb```,lfB It is important to keep in mind that the people who are sick in our minds are in no way the people we are testing for drugs. I tried pushing my date out but his supervisor called and said the latest he can do is may 27th. For information regarding Navy enlisted ratings, see [Twisky's Rating Information Guide] (https://www.reddit.com/r/newtothenavy/comments/6mxv7c/links_to_official_information_on_every_enlisted/). One time it took me 40 days to show up clean. Sorry Im kinda in the same boat Im 60 days clean and Im going to be going to Meps in like 30 days from now so Ill be 90 days (3months) clean by then I vaped delta8thc daily and would go through a cart a month. depending on the technology. endstream endobj startxref "Applicants need to be aware of the standard we hold our service members to when they join the service.". Tags: drug test help meps Justlovedogs New Member #1 Justlovedogs, May 17, 2020 Ok so here's the thing, I'm not a regular smoker. PM me if you have any questions. The military considers anything over 10 nano grams as a failure. hbbd```b`` r "`,D2EE` ,$T2H2012D@ N We used to protect our country. HOK@| mTh-|}OLI g~sL`dVq1iBR}&Pl)M`: 48tKr=ir0q>]dVT;?P5 jYT1I-o!Dr+F\l\.W:`Y=,z5d](MOnp6rCA1z !I5`hXe4F. 3VR,%I]b Because the military is not what it used to be. hW]oJ+. The cross reactivity of the immunoassay to A forum to discuss Navy Recruiters, processing at MEPS, Delayed Entry Program, Enlisted Ratings, "A" Schools, Officer Candidate School, Recruit Training Command, and transferring to your first command. No worries man. Cookie Notice 0000001414 00000 n The cutoff for these things is 50 ng/mL but in the military, the confirmation level is 15 ng/mL. Back when I smoked schwag it took me 45 days to get my levels low enough to pass a meps . 2 As benzoylecgonine. }b]'Ww'5'+&\5_8zA8#rM)soGx|{W#"Op}FyCM: 92(*L:#. 0000000607 00000 n I just don't know if I'm clean or not yet. Also, while you wait for a reply from a subject matter expert, try using the search feature! His love for reading is one of the many things that make him such a well-rounded individual. So which is it? most people, including my self will get kosher salt, dump 1/4 to 1/2 teaspoon of it into an 8floz water bottle and a few dashes of lemon concentrate, shake it up and drink it. Cut-off levels are the defined amounts you can have in your system before you are considered positive for a specific drug. Thursday morning my recruiter calls and says my waiver was approved. Its about the deaths of the groups. %%EOF A military drug test is more stringent than most. Copyright 1999 - 2022 Grasscity.com is a part of, (You must log in or sign up to post here. You have entered an incorrect email address! XvIYIu[FY??#:4c3'vN/\M4gLp2`C>$E5Gx\]d^,i} c with a fast metabolism. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. (1) HHS-certified laboratories shall apply the following cutoff levels for initial testing of specimens to determine whether they are negative or positive for the indicated drugs and drug metabolites, except as specified in paragraph (a)(2) of this section or the licensee or other entity has established more stringent cutoff levels: TABLE 1 TO PARAGRAPH (a)(1) URINE, INITIAL TEST CUTOFF LEVELS FOR DRUGS AND DRUG METABOLITES. I quit for good. I think that the reason for the drug test is that the people who believe in meps drug test cutoff level are most likely right and that it is actually more likely that I am correct than not. In the case of urine analysis, drug testing cutoff levels are measured in nanograms per milliliter (ng/ml). 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